Julia Gillard caught lying on the public record in 2007 about the Bruce Wilson AWU fraud scandal.

Evidence that has come to light in the last few days clearly shows Julia Gillard lied on the public record in an interview she did in 2007. The evidence shows Julia Gillard has given three different reasons why she set up an association that was used by Bruce Wilson and Ralph Blewitt to funnel fraudulently gained money through. If you are new to the story click here for a previous post that gives you the background.

The three different reasons Julia Gillard gave have come from three different sources. 1. Hedley Thomas from The Australian who did an interview with former Slater & Gordon partner Nick Styant-Browne in the last few days. 2. Mike Smith who has a copy of the form used to set up the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association which was used to funnel the money through., which he says most likely has Julia Gillard’s hand writing on it. 3. The interview Glenn Milne did with Julia Gillard which was published on the November 11, 2007 in The Telegraph.

Nick Styant-Browne investigation into Julia Gillard – 1995

Former Slater & Gordon partner Nick Styant-Browne says that in an interview that was set up by Slater and Gordon in 1995 to investigate the fraud which was recorded and transcribed that Julia Gillard said that she “understood the purpose of the association was to hold re-election funds for  union officials – she stated it was referred to as a re-election fund or slush fund”. (Click here to read)

Mike Smith

Mike Smith did an interview with Ben Fordham on radio station 2gb on Monday and stated that he has a copy of the original form used to set up the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association. He said words to the effect that he has had a hand writing expert look at it and it is highly likely that is has Julia Gillard’s hand writing on it and the reason for setting up the association says on the form  “development of changes to work to achieve safe workplaces”. The interview goes into a lot more detail and is well worth a listen. (Click here to listen to the interview)

To see the handwriting on the 2gb website click here.

Mike Smith in the interview on 2gb pointed out there was a conflict in what the form says and what Julia Gillard said to Nick Styant-Browne in 1995. Once I heard that I realised it also conflicted with what Julia Gillard told Glenn Milne in 2007.

Glenn Milne interview with Julia Gillard – 2007

In November 2007 Glenn Milne interviewed Julia Gillard just before the federal election which was held on the 24 November 2007.

In that interview it says “As a solicitor acting on instructions, she set up an association later used by
her lover to defraud the Australian Workers Union (AWU). But she has strenuously denied ever knowing what the association’s bank accounts were used for.” (Click here to read more)

The obvious problem is Julia Gillard has said on the application form with her likely hand writing on it that the association was for “development of changes to work to achieve safe workplaces”, she told Nick Styant-Browne that she “understood the purpose of the association was to hold re-election funds for  union officials – she stated it was referred to as a re-election fund or slush fund” and she told Glenn Milne “she has strenuously denied ever knowing what the association’s bank accounts were used for.” Three different times, three different answers!

The main defence that Julia Gillard has been using is that it happened 17 years ago and she will not comment. The problem here is the interview with Glenn Milne happened only five years ago and the 17 years ago argument has always been a joke anyhow as there is no time statute for investigating crimes. Police set up task forces all the time to investigate old unsolved crimes. But even if you do agree with the it’s to old excuse because it happened 17 years ago, that does not cover the PM lying on the public record 5 years ago.

Is Julia Gillard going to say she lied 5 years ago and therefore does not have to answer why she lied? This is the point the MSM should drive when Gillard says it happened 17 years ago. They should respond with: What about 5 years ago and what you said then, is that too old?

The media coverage is starting to move fast. Other updates are below.

Michael Pascoe of the SMH did a story on Monday titled “Larry Pickering – the conman stalking Gillard” (Click here to read) in which he references and links to the post that I did on Sunday “Larry Pickering who ripped off $15million in a betting software scam claims to be investigating Julia Gillard for the AWU fraud scam.”

Pickering’s outing as a crook was always going to happen as he is well-known for being a con man which my story and Pascoe’s point out. Better now than later.

Michael Smith also on Monday did a video interview in which he also has a swipe at Larry Pickering. (Click here to watch)

Julia Gillard and Paul Howes as you can see by the tweets below have already been trying to use Pickering as an excuse as why they do not have to respond. Now that he has been outed and as more evidence comes to hand in relation to Gillard’s involvement in the fraud and the fraud in general it makes it a lot harder for them to use Pickering as an excuse as why they should not respond to questions.

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