Malcolm Turbull

Malcolm Turnbull the rain man who speaks with forked tongue.

Malcolm Turnbull has called for more truth in parliament. I agree, so in this post we have a look at what a dirty rotten lying scoundrel Malcolm Turnbull is.

In a speech that Mr Turnbull gave in Perth last Wednesday it was reported “Malcolm Turnbull has decried the state of political discourse in Australia, saying it had deteriorated to such an extent that the nation suffered “a deficit of trust” and there was an urgent need for honesty in politics.” (Click here to read more)

Before Malcolm starts preaching he needs to have a good look at himself. His own party dumped him as leader in 2009 and from all reports trust and honesty were an issue. Mr Turnbull has also refused to answer a number of questions in relation to a grant he gave when he was Enviroment Minister in the Howard government to his friend Matt Handbury.

Mr Turnbull’s electorate fund-raising is done though an organisation he set up in 2007 called the Wentworth Forum. The SMH reported “Regarded as the country’s most sophisticated political fund-raising machine, the forum offers membership packages that give the most generous supporters more opportunities to gain access to Mr Turnbull.”

“It costs $5500 to be a “member”, $11,000 to be a “sponsor”, $16,500 to be a “patron”, $25,500 to be a “benefactor” and $55,000 to be a “governor”.”

“A governor can host boardroom events, and gets two tables at big functions featuring Mr Turnbull, and attendance at an exclusive dinner for supporters.”

“An analysis of forum donations, fund-raising events and memberships between 2007 and last December shows Mr Turnbull received more than $1.4 million. He personally contributed about $10,000 in catering for forum events. Most of the money was raised before the 2007 federal election.” (Click here to read more)

Matt Handbury was one of the donors to Mr Turnbull’s Wentworth Forum.

Before the 2007 election and two weeks after the election was called Malcolm Turnbull announced that the government would spend $11 million funding a trail of rainfall technology. The company in question was Australian Rain Corporation which was then part owned by Matt Handbury.

It says on Mr Turnbull’s Wikipedia profile “During the 2007 election campaign, Turnbull announced that the then Government would contribute $10 million to the investigation of an untried Russian technology that aims to trigger rainfall from the atmosphere, even when there are no clouds. Literature suggests that the technology is based on bogus science. The Australian Rain Corporation presented research documents written in Russian, explained by a Russian researcher who spoke to local experts in Russian.”

“Although Turnbull claimed that Australian Rain Corporation is Australian-based, investigations have shown that it is in fact 75 per cent Swiss-owned. It was also revealed that a prominent stakeholder in the Australian Rain Corporation, Matt Handbury, is a nephew of Rupert Murdoch. Turnbull has refused to answer questions regarding Matt Handbury’s contribution to the Wentworth Forum, the main fundraising organisation for Turnbull’s 2007 election campaign.” (Click here to read more)

It was even raised in parliament in 2009 during the infamous Godwin Grech / Utegate scandal. On the 22nd June 2009 the following statement by Tony Burke Minister for Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population shows up on Hansard:

“There is an interesting organisation involved in what is described as ‘rainfall enhancement technology’—a company named the Australian Rain Corporation. Apparently they have decided to corporatise rain! The Australian Rain Corporation sought money and the National Water Commission commissioned an independent review of the technology that they were putting forward by a former senior CSIRO officer and professor of physical sciences and engineering from the ANU. The National Water Commission insisted that the Australian Rain Corporation give a presentation of this technology to a panel of physicists. They then provided it with the research papers and made the presentation in Russian. The independent review concluded: ‘There is no convincing evidence that the Atlant technology operates as believed by its proponents.’ But in the end the department recommended that the member for Wentworth provide them with $2 million for a trial, which was arguably a generous offering, given what had been said about the technology. What did the Leader of the Opposition, as a minister, do with a recommendation to give them $2 million? He wrote to the Prime Minister seeking a lazy $10 million for the Australian Rain Corporation. You have to ask: what would be the circumstances of taking a departmental recommendation for $2 million and turning it into $10 million? Why would the Leader of the Opposition have done that as a minister?”

“This is where we discover that an executive of the Australian Rain Corporation happened to be a next-door neighbour of the Leader of the Opposition. The same person, the same neighbour, was a member of his electorate fundraising committee, the Wentworth Forum, with membership costing a cool $5,000 to get yourself into the room. If you want to find deals for mates, there are stories of deals for mates and there are stories that rest very squarely with the Leader of the Opposition. This is the same person who was able to run around saying, ‘Well, we’ve got this email. You’d better publish it,’ and who went to members of staff, intimidated them and said that he had documentary evidence. All we ask of the Leader of the Opposition is: prove that you have been telling the truth. We know what will happen. We know we will be greeted with the same deathly silence that we get now. We know that he is pretending to write and focus on something else, but we know full well that the Leader of the Opposition has been caught out and caught out badly.” (Click here to read more) And on the 23rd June 2009 it was raised again in parliament by Tony Burke. (Click here to read)

Another article says: “Rainmaker Ian Searle, the father of cloud seeding in Australia for the Tasmanian Hydro scheme, has also expressed doubts, as has Israel’s internationally respected cloud physicist Professor Daniel Rosenfeld.”

“There is no single scientific paper, only the patent, and one can patent anything claiming it’s to do anything that he likes, as long as no one else has made the same claims before,” Professor Rosenfeld said.

“Mr Searle says all the literature he has seen on the technology shows it to be a bogus science.” (Click here to read more)

At one point the government were talking about having an inquiry into the grant to Australian Rain Corporation but it never eventuated. As it turned out when the Rudd government came to power in November 2007 the new Enviroment Minister Penny Wong cancelled the grant but $2.97 million had already been paid  and there were likely other costs in terminating the funding agreement. (Click here to read more)

There are a lot of unanswered questions that Malcolm Turnbull needs to answer about the Australian Rain Corporation grant. So far he refuses.

Other issues about his honesty have also been raised such as: “Mr Turnbull connection to the logging industry in Solomon Islands began in 1991 and 1992, when he owned shares and also chairman of the then Hong Kong listed Axiom Forest Resources that own logging operations and forest concessions in the country.”

He rejected accusations that he had once played a huge role in bad logging practices in Solomon Islands, claiming “he was trying to encourage local landowners to change logging practices and ways”.

Mr Turnbull then further claimed “…. the company (Silvania) brought in some of the best foresters in the world. There was a lot of work done on reforestation, on plantations”.

A report by the Australian International Development Aid Bureau – now Ausaid – in 1994 described the logging practices of Axiom subsidiary Silvania Forest Products as:…”more like a clear-felling operation and bearing little relation to an attempt at even retaining a token sample of future commercial crop on the site.”

A separate report also described Silvania’s forest practices as “amongst the worst in the world.” (Click here to read more)

If Malcolm Turnbull wants more honesty in government he needs to start with himself. At the next election if the polls are true and the Liberals/Nationals win power one of the first things that they need to do is get rid of Turnbull. He is a major liability, not an asset. Judgement day is coming for all corrupt politicians no matter what side of politics they are on.

This post is off topic to a degree for this site but a lack of honesty by politicians is a major reason why the courts are so corrupted. They fail to appoint judicial officers on merit as they are almost all jobs for the boys and girls and they fail to do anything about judicial corruption as to do so would lead back to the people who appointed them in the first place.

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89 Comments on “Malcolm Turnbull the rain man who speaks with forked tongue.”

  1. H.W.S September 9, 2012 at 7:43 pm #

    As one of Malcom’s constituents I was appraised of his financial gathering forum at the time.
    Regrettably, I could not afford his fees, so an appointment was out of the question. Are all local members so expensive.?

  2. Fred Nerk September 9, 2012 at 7:43 pm #

    Malcolm don’t want anything to do with politics. Just sitting on a few Megabucks waiting for the emissions trading scheme to fire up-.

    • phiston September 10, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

      The Carbon Trading Scheme is exactly what it says it is.. a SCHEME for TRADING (a commodity on the stock market – in this case carbon) and it seems that Malcolm Turncoat is on any side that will bring this scheme into legislation. Having been a merchant banker and worth ?? millions of dollars, is it possible that Malcolm saw a few hundred extra million at the end of this carbon rainbow??

  3. curious September 9, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    Shane you could run another site on enviromental corruption! If people only realised how much funding is siphoned off to rich elite and their bribed officials through the environmental pipeline! No wonder our hospitals are stuffed!

  4. saxon September 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm #

    Turnbull is the very worst type of politician, one that while declaring support for one political view harbors opposing views and actively undermines his own party. He is a charlatan.

  5. Glenn September 9, 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    Thank God. I was battling people all week on the conventional comment sites about the untrustworthiness of this bozo. Thanks Shane for putting this in print.
    As far as i’m concerned, he’s ex Goldman Sachs, so as far a Im concerned he’s crooked.

    • H.W.S September 9, 2012 at 8:37 pm #

      GS? Nah, it is ‘gold in my sacks’! Read the daily bail.com and/or Mike Rivero at whatreallyhappened.com for a week or so and the message will come through.

    • Paul September 10, 2012 at 6:04 am #

      “The Member for Goldman Sachs”. He’s a dirty, corrupt, treasonous globalist and Abbott would do well to get rid of him, though I suspect that would be inconsistent with Abbott’s political survival.

      • H.W.S September 10, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

        Yep: ‘if I control the money, I care not who controls the government. ‘ or something similar!

      • Paul February 6, 2015 at 9:57 pm #

        Well, just call me Paulstradamus

    • PJ, September 10, 2012 at 11:16 am #

      Hi Glenn; Mr Turnbull is not ex G/S————he is their manchurian candidate here in Australia.

      • Paul September 14, 2015 at 8:58 pm #

        “Well, just call me Paulstradamus”

        But I repeat myself.

  6. Blackswan September 9, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    The subject of Turnbull may well be a bit of a detour from recent subject matter, but an extremely timely one Shane.

    There is much in Turnbull’s background that demands greater scrutiny and, like Gillard, “it was so long ago” won’t cut it.

    He first came to my attention during the course of the collapse of HIH and the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the culpability of the players in that sorry episode in our economic history.

    As Managing Director of Goldman Sachs Australia (GSA), he was up to his neck in the HIH takeover of FIA Insurance and its subsequent collapse. Google for the detail, but this link offers an interesting perspective …….

    http://barnabyisright.com/2011/07/20/malcolm-turnbull-the-goldman-churian-candidate/

    Goldman Sachs has been one of the major instigators of Global Climate Fraud and Turnbull has much to be grateful to GSA for – it was their cash that “settled”, and bailed him out of a tight spot. He remains a staunch advocate for the Climate Lobby – he has a lot of markers that will be called-in, and his investments in Green Scams will reap him a bundle if he can keep the agenda on-track.

    When looking for the most odious characters sitting in our Parliament, it’s hard to go past Turnbull as poster-boy for the most disingenuous, manipulative and treacherous of the lot of them.

    • H.W.S September 9, 2012 at 9:06 pm #

      Dear Malcolm stated his intention to leave us and parliament, I think after the Howard loss. (stand to be corrected) then changed his mind. At the time, I thought ‘the markers’ were called on, for him to dutifully stay. Going to be interesting, as to his backer’s next move. Consider: If one is worth over a hundred million, why put up with boring crap over question time and peasant constituents, whilst in opposition. Viva, the Republic! As a distraction?

    • Bazza September 10, 2012 at 5:59 am #

      Black swan……. Try and get a comment on Turnbull posted in the MSM that points out his real aims when it comes to “the weather”. He supports an ETS for one reason only, and it has nothing to do with lowering emissions. It is all about his future bank balance.

      • Blackswan September 11, 2012 at 7:19 am #

        Bazza, the MSM has decided Turnbull is teflon-coated – any negative comment on him is moderated out and never sees the light of day. They all think he’ll roll Abbott eventually and end up as PM, and they don’t want to be denied ‘access’ in future, so it’s ‘hands off’. That’s why I gave up bothering with any comment on their opinion blogs – pointless.

        It’s not only about his bank balance, it’s about what he owes and to whom.

  7. H.W.S September 9, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

    Further, as for providing a competent and genuine reply to a constituent on a subject that is worrisome to the government, forget it, not even an acknowledgement! A large majority support by interest groups replaces Aussie liberal and loyal Aussie national peasants, period!

    • FURIOUS September 9, 2012 at 9:24 pm #

      TURNBULL IS WORTH A LOT MORE THAN A HUNDRED MILLION.
      MRS RUDD IS WORTH THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION.
      RUDD WAS SLANDERD BEYOND BELIEF AND STABBED IN THE BACK BY HIS PARTY.
      THEY TELL YOU IT IS HARD YAKKA AND THEY COULD DO SO MUCH BETTER IN THE REAL WORLD .
      THEY ARE STAYING FOR YOU AND ME .. DO NOT CHOKE LAUGHING

      • onetwotreeman September 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm #

        FURIOUS…I’m laughing like a drain…staying for you and me…bwa hahahahaha. Shane, this is the best post by far. Cutting edge stuff!

  8. FURIOUS September 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm #

    ANOTHER GREAT POST SHANE.

    THAT WILL WIPE THE SMILE OF HIS SMUG MUG.
    THE LIBS SHOULD GIVE HIM THE FLICK.
    GILLARD AND HER FELLOW RATS MUST HAVE BEEN LAUGHING SO HARD AT HIS OH SO SLY DIGS AT TONY ABBOTT IN HIS RECENT SPEECH.
    HE WANTS TO BE A LEADER SO I JUST WISH HE WOULD RESIGN AND JOIN THE CESS POOL THAT IS THE LABOR PARTY.
    I BELIEVE HE IS A REAL DANGER TO THE LIBS AND (IN MY OPINION) WOULD DAMAGE THEM OUT OF SPITE. HE IS SO CONVINCED HE IS NUMERO UNO .
    I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN HIH NO WAY.

  9. mareeS September 9, 2012 at 9:20 pm #

    Malcolm almost succeeded in destroying the conservative side of politics in 2009, first through the Godwin Gretch matter and then through cosying up to Rudd on an ETS (with which he seems seriously compromised via business interests).

    As one of many who forced the Lib/Nats into an 11th-hour leadership spill that tipped him out, I wonder why Mr Turnbull is still there if not to be a spoiler. He’s certainly not trying hard on the NBN or that dead duck Conroy, he’s too busy sabotaging his own side to do the job he’s being paid for.

    Your information is enlightening, Shane. Maybe Julia and Malcolm should be marched out of the House of Reps handcuffed together and in ankle chains to the closest jail reserved for corrupt lawyers…oops, I was thinking Cooma, but that’s where they put kiddie fiddlers…

    • H.W.S September 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

      There must be a suitable place somewhere for the ‘young and naive’. Southern France perhaps, Monaco even, or Pilliga, perhaps Come By Chance or Goodooga!?

      • pattoh September 10, 2012 at 11:14 am #

        Macquarrie Island waiting for AGW to turn it into a tropical paradise.

      • Treeman September 10, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

        Goodooga for the young and naive…my mate from Bollon will laugh himself sick!

      • H.W.S September 10, 2012 at 9:16 pm #

        Malcolm,
        The partial consensus seems to favour Goodooga. I appreciate it is away from Point Piper, but at least the neighbours will be genuine Aussies who do not give a stuff for the ETS and bankers plus, foreign entities.

    • Blackswan September 10, 2012 at 7:52 am #

      Maree, you say …… “he’s too busy sabotaging his own side to do the job he’s being paid for.”

      THAT IS the job he’s being paid for.

      Don’t forget – Abbott only gained the Leadership by a single vote. It’s a sobering fact that almost half the Opposition think he’s good enough to lead their Party.

      As far as I’m concerned, that fact demonstrates that our Parliament consists almost entirely of ‘useful idiots’ of any persuasion. They are pre-selected on their track-record of compliance with the Party apparatchiks – they are lazy, don’t do their homework, don’t read or understand the legislation they are told to vote on, and are unlikely to ‘rock the boat’ in being hampered by integrity or a capacity for independent thought.

      Turnbull, himself an ego-driven sock-puppet for Goldman Sachs, is the perfect vehicle to become puppet-master in our Parliament. Gillard laid the groundwork for Carbon legislation attracting all the flak – if Turnbull can succeed in white-anting Abbott, he’ll be splashing the Climate Cash in all directions. There will be NO repeal of Carbon legislation.

      Don’t forget, after the next election, there will be so many ‘rookies’ in the House. Starry-eyed newbies who really don’t understand how it all works and will be anxious to comply with their leadership without question or challenge.

      Far smarter than either KRudd or Gillard, who only had union thugs behind them, Turnbull has a global network of financial destroyers in the shadows behind him.

      Malcolm Turnbull is the most dangerous man in Australian politics today.

      • FURIOUS September 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm #

        I AGREE WITH ALL YOU SAY ABOUT THE POLITICIANS, HOWEVER, I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST CORRUPT JOURNALISTS IN THE WORLD,
        ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS GILLARD BEHAVED CORRUPTLY SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO, AND TONY ABBOTT MAY HAVE BEHAVED FOOLISHLY AT UNIVERSITY THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO.

        COMPARE THE MEDIA TREATMENT OF GILLARD AND ABBOTT.

        I BELIEVE IT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BIASED POLITICALLY AGAINST ABBOTT BUT PERSONAL GAIN IN SOME FORM MAY MOTIVATE THEM..

        I WATCHED SATURDAY AGENDA AND A JOURNALIST TRIED TO TRAP CHRIS KENNY INTO TALKING ABOUT GILLARD’S QUESTIONABLE RELATIONSHIPS I THINK HER NAME WAS SAMANTHA MAIDEN.
        SHE THEN INSISTED GILLARD HAD BEEN PUT UNDER INTENSE SCRUTINY REGARDING HER PERSONAL LIFE.

        IF TONY ABBOTT HAD A PAST LIKE GILLARD’S THE MEDIA WOULD DEMAND HE BE NAILED TO A CROSS OR PUBLICLY HANGED

      • Veritas September 18, 2012 at 10:39 pm #

        What about the idiotic “old-timers” who fill the benches? A forum of trade union hacks running our country. Bring on the new boys who believe in a better Australia!

  10. FURIOUS September 9, 2012 at 11:30 pm #

    TONY ABBOTT HAS BEEN THE FINEST OPPOSITION IN THE HISTORY OF AUSTRALIAN POLITICS. HE HAS DOMINATED IN SO MANY WAYS.
    BUT THERE ARE POWERFUL FORCES THAT DO NOT WANT HIM TO REMAIN LEADER. LABOR HATE HIM BEYOND REASON.

    THE BIG MONEY MEN WANT AND NEED TURNBULL. AND THE LABOR WOULD LOVE HIM TO DEPOSE ABBOTT.
    .
    THERE ARE MANY FORCES OUT TO DESTROY HIS REPUTATION AND WHAT HE HAS ENDURED IS NOTHING TO WHAT IS COMING.
    I BELIEVE HE IS STRONG ENOUGH TO SURVIVE I HOPE SO FOR THE SAKE OF AUSTRALIA.. HE HAS WORKED SO HARD WHICH IS MORE THAN CAN BE SAID FOR MANY MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT.

    • Rouge September 10, 2012 at 12:35 am #

      This is exactly how I feel Furious. Dont normally comment on such matters. I have always had deep concerns about Malcolm Turnball and the danger he is not only for the LNP and for Australian politics in general. An ommissions trading scheme is certainly on his agenda. He certainly has no integrity and does not deserve to be a member of parliament he is to be watched closely. I think that Tony Abbott has his measure. I hope for the future of Australia Tony can continue to endure and achieve the outcome he deserves.

    • onetwotreeman September 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm #

      FURIOUS…Agree wholeheartedly. Tony’s success in opposition IMHO is unprecedented with 2PP at 52:48 for over 12 months now and the luvvies hating that they have so little left in the tank. Trashing of Greens last weekend in NSW must send a message of some kind to Malcolm. I sense a few butcher’s sendoffs at the next election!

  11. Paul September 10, 2012 at 6:16 am #

    Thank you for bringing up the issue of Turnbull Shane. Many of our politicians have sold their souls to the Globalist agenda on both sides of the House. Turnbull would be among the worst when it comes to acts against the best interests of this country. Goldman is like the CIA or Mossad (in fact probably part of). Once in you never really leave.

  12. Chookums September 10, 2012 at 6:39 am #

    Don’t like him, don’t trust him, never have, never will.

    I think the Libs need to deal with him now, before the next election, as I believe long term he’ll prove to be a nasty time bomb, much like Gillard.

    • EJ September 10, 2012 at 4:17 pm #

      Spot on “Chookums”…now or never.

  13. susan September 10, 2012 at 8:07 am #

    I have to say I’ve been a bit taken aback whenever Turnbull opens his mouth, as most of the time his rhetoric is either aimed at this own party or spouting off about climate change, which, btw, used to be called global warming. When things didn’t warm up fast enough to suit them, they changed it to climate change as that covers everything!

    I believe humans are killing the planet, but this carbon tax and trading emissions nonsense will do nothing to help. IMO there are simply too many people..what to do about that is anyone’s guess. Another big bang probably.

    David Marr certainly has a vendetta against Abbott atm! some rubbish re punching a wall and scaring some pathetic woman back in his uni days in 1977. For goodness sake! how desperate can you get! Abbott denies this even happened.

    I feel these next federal elections are going to be very down and dirty..I dread the absolute filth that is going to be dragged up re pollies starting from their nappy and Mum’s breast days!

    Hoping the Libs don’t go down this path as well..or my tv will be echoing to the sounds of silence. 😦

    • Bazza September 10, 2012 at 8:14 am #

      @susan..that was a mild attack on Abbott by. Usually the old bird really lets the fingernails rip right into Abbott.

    • curious September 10, 2012 at 8:30 am #

      Susan these people who hide behind the enviromental flag pretending to save the world i.e Turnbull etc, George Soros another and many more are in my opinion the same type of people who owned slaves to work the sugar plantations or owned shares in the “east india company” that traded opium with China. Those type of people are well and truly still with us deceptively hiding in places like “The Environment”

      • Blackswan September 10, 2012 at 10:08 am #

        Curious …… anyone who has a mortgage or credit card debt are already slaves – to the Banksters.

        A wise man once said, “The strongest chains are those than men put on themselves.”

        That’s why entities like Goldman Sachs are so destructive. And make no mistake, Turnbull sees himself as one of the ‘born to rule’ elite. He’ll have no compunction about using this nation’s wealth to his own, and his masters’, advantage.

        He’ll make these Union oafs look like amateurs.

      • curious September 10, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

        Agree their Black swan! That same wise man also said ” give a man a gun and he can rob a bank” , Give a man a bank and he can rob a nation”

    • FURIOUS September 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm #

      NO ONE DOES SMEAR LIKE LABOR AND ITS MATES IN THE MEDIA

  14. Warren Stone September 10, 2012 at 8:39 am #

    I’m heartened to learn that so many people understand what Turnbull is really all about. How could the LNP have encouraged him to remain in politics? If they vote him back into the top job in the future, it will be a sorry day for this country. It will also be the day I abandon the LNP.

    • phiston September 10, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

      Warren.. there are some rogue pollies in our country and perhaps the most infamous of all is Juliar. However, I personally place Malcolm at a very close second as I believe he is perhaps even more slimy than Kevin.. if that’s at all possible. It’s a close call for who gets second place in my books…

    • FURIOUS September 10, 2012 at 5:22 pm #

      ” HE’LL MAKE THE UNION OAFS LOOK LIKE AMATEURS” ENOUGH TO PUT A SHIVER UP YOUR SPINE. LET HIM GO AND LIVE IN HIS TEN MILLION PAD IN NEW YORK. I BELIEVE THE POWER COUPLE BOUGHT IT FOR R AND R.

      THERE IS AN ARTICLE IN TODAY’S FIN REVIEW ABOUT THE UNIONS AND SUPER. I HAVE READ SOME SCARY STORIES ABOUT WHAT SOME UNIONS HAVE BEEN UP TO AND IT IS NOT PRETTY.

  15. Fred Nerk September 10, 2012 at 10:50 am #

    Do not forget that Turnbull badly wants a republic with a directly elected head of state. He really needs a good look in the mirror. God help us if he ever gets his way !!

  16. Phil September 10, 2012 at 10:57 am #

    Politics. Isn’t it great. If we vote in independents there would be a lot of bickering and nothing done. If we vote in the liberals or labor a lot of bickering and not much done.
    Vote the lot OUT and make every vote informal. Now that would cause the biggest uproar in politics and inform them all that they stink.
    Geez i love politics…..

  17. TomC September 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm #

    Ah Malcolm, Australias ENRON

  18. PJ, September 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    I happened to watch question time when the Grech thing fell apart. Mr Joe Hockey was seen to confront Mr turnbull and tell him that the scam was over. I was just reading body language here, but Mr Turnbull seemed to then lose all his O2 and accept that he had been conned. For a person of some intellect, this was a hard call. So what has changed since—————————nothing.

  19. David September 10, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Turnbull’s support of the infamous naked child photographer lost me.

  20. phiston September 10, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

    This is an excellent post and (the majority of) the comments here are brilliant to say the least. I’m excited by the number of responses and the honesty and knowledge expressed within these comments. It’s comforting to know that so many Aussies are onto this charlatan and his smug, sly, slimy business principals. What a disgusting mess our state of politics is right here in our own back yard, let alone overseas. Thanks people, for having the guts to express your views, political and otherwise!

  21. Treeman September 10, 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    Shane
    This post cuts to the chase and the comments are telling. Like Warren, I’m heartened that so many Australians are wising up to the garbage we’ve been peddled. NSW Green vote on the decline is a litmus test for the upcoming Federal election and a clear message for all politicians with a quid or two invested each way. As you say, their judgement day approaches!

  22. hillbilly33 September 11, 2012 at 7:41 am #

    Totally agree and told himon his own blog why he lost leadership of the Liberal Party!
    O/T but please see my request just posted on prima facie case page. Thanks.

  23. Liz of Vic September 11, 2012 at 3:41 pm #

    Shane,
    So Pleased to read this post on Turnbull never trusted him, knew something was clicking with the HIH affair and him, could not put my finger on it.
    Thank you, appreciate all the work you put into all this

  24. Blackswan September 17, 2012 at 8:17 am #

    It may be much too late to avert the inevitable………..

    Turnbull firms as preferred leader

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/turnbull-firms-as-preferred-leader-20120916-260kj.html

    “MALCOLM TURNBULL has stretched his lead over Tony Abbott as the preferred Liberal leader and for the first time has majority support among Coalition voters.

    The latest Herald/Nielsen poll shows 63 per cent of all voters prefer Mr Turnbull as the Coalition leader, compared with 30 per cent for Mr Abbott.”

    The Media is entirely responsible for this – giving Turnbull the silkworm treatment, either through ignorance and lazy journalism or, more reprehensibly, to see Turnbull’s Liberal leadership achieve/sustain Labor policy should Labor lose the election.

    “Among Labor voters, Mr Turnbull remains very popular, with 73 per cent support compared with 19 per cent for Mr Abbott.”

    Seems to be time to tighten our seatbelts – this is going to be a rough ride.

    • Concerned Aussie September 17, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

      Blackswan, i don’t believe a word the main stream media says. it may be true, i don’t know, but they have lied and misrepresented the truth so many times that i don’t listen to them any more. are they really speaking the truth this time, or are they just promoting one of their “mates in crime” as their preferred leader?

      • Paul September 17, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

        The Big Lie principle at work as usual. The NWO traitors promoting one of their own again.

      • Blackswan September 18, 2012 at 6:28 am #

        Aussie, you could be right – these polls are likely to be confected nonsense.

        However, politics is always about ‘perception’ and they don’t call it the ‘donkey vote’ for nothing.

        The way Turnbull’s head pops up on the ABC and is feted by the likes of Tony Jones and his carefully selected audiences, there are many who agree he’s the answer to Labor’s prayers.

        For a long time I’ve seen Labor’s relentless personal attacks against Abbott as, not so much to discredit the Coalition, as to personally denigrate Abbott and pave the way for Turnbull to roll him.

        Don’t forget, Abbott won the leadership by a single vote. All they need to get Turnbull back in the chair is to sway a couple of votes and he’s in.

        If the public perception is that Turnbull is the better man (without being the liability that Abbott is being portayed as), there are enough bums-on-seats Lib MPs who will ‘go with the flow’ and vote accordingly.

        This is not looking good – that reptile is a whisker away from being PM.

  25. nottwistedyet September 17, 2012 at 2:45 pm #

    Always thought. it would not be easy, I do not believe these Polls, they have never asked
    one of these questions of anyone I know, worked with etc.etc. Look how wrong they were in Queensland.
    I think Malcolm Turnbull is not to be trusted, knew that a long time ago, he belongs in the Labor-party, he should feel at home with that sleazy lot.

  26. Fred Nerk September 19, 2012 at 9:49 am #

    Professor of political science, Dr. Dean Jaensch said on the ABC radio once that
    being a politician is the only job which needs no formal qualifications.

    Not even a drivers licence.

    All that is required are two things… 1. Honesty
    2. Commonsense

    How many of our current lot are qualified.

    • phiston September 19, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

      I’m not educated to a high standard and I have no formal qualifications.. but it seems as if even I know more than that professor!

    • FURIOUS September 19, 2012 at 10:24 pm #

      OMG VERY FEW.

  27. David September 19, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

    An ABC twot is seriously claiming that Turnbull is more electable than Abbott because of his (Turnbull’s) smile. OMG, the barrell’s bottom must be close.

    • Paul September 19, 2012 at 3:54 pm #

      The ABC have their instructions…

  28. curious September 19, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    Who’s instructing them? Unions/Labor probably. ABC rides the gravy train! They definitley won’t like anyone who tightens their tap up!

  29. Blackswan September 20, 2012 at 8:32 am #

    Check this out folks ….. a picture is worth a thousand words.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/federal-mps-say-no-to-gay-marriage/story-fncynkc6-1226477630230

    “Mr Turnbull, who supports gay marriage but voted against it because Coalition frontbenchers did not have a free vote on the issue……. “

    There he is, cosying up to ‘herself’, literally crossing-the-floor undoubtedly to congratulate each other on how well their campaign is going – Gillard stocks are ‘up’, Abbott’s are ‘down’. What a sycophantic tool. She is attacking Abbott in order to pave the way for Turdbull to take the Leader’s chair.

    That way, even if the Libs win govt, Labor policy will be implemented.

    And Turdbull has just picked up the homosexual lobby vote as well.

    It was no imprudent ‘accident’ that he would be seen (and photographed AND published) sitting with ‘herself’ – with 1600 media advisers there are no accidents, merely ‘photo ops’.

    That pair has a message to sell and a picture is worth a thousand words.

    • Bazza September 20, 2012 at 8:49 am #

      The Doctor’s wives of Wentworth will still re-elect this Labor politician as their representative at the next election. Their brains are fried from too much chardonnay at lunch times.

      • Blackswan September 20, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

        Bazza – Today at Question Time in the House I watched Turdbull spend almost the entire time he was there utterly preoccupied with his iPad and his telephone (as did most of the MPs in the Parliament). For the brief period he wasn’t tweeting, typing and flicking through his touch-screen he slouched with his arms crossed, a perfect body-language example of disinterest – a time-server in waiting.

        A jackal slinking around the periphery awaiting his chance.

    • FURIOUS September 20, 2012 at 7:46 pm #

      BLACKSWAN

      I FEEL VERY AFRAID AFTER READING YOUR COMMENT “THAT REPTILE IS A WISKER AWAY FROM BECOMING PM.
      JUDGING BY YOUR POST’S I THINK YOU ARE VERY PERCEPTIVE AND WISE.
      HOWEVER, I DID HEAR HE HAS LOST A LOT OF SUPPORT SINCE THE LAST SPILL.
      I HOPE IT WILL NOT HAPPEN FOR THE SAKE OF AUSTRALIA AND OF COURSE , TONY ABBOTT.
      I REMEMBER WHEN BILL HAYDEN WAS ROLLED BY HAWKE.
      BILL HADEN HAD DONE TREMENDOUS WORK IN CLEANING UP THE CORRUPTION IN THE BRANCHES AND GETTING LABOR IN A WINNING POSITION, BUT THE UNIONS ONCE AGAIN GOT THEIR MAN IN THE TOP JOB.

  30. curious September 20, 2012 at 6:18 pm #

    I did’nt see it but know exactly what you are saying there Blackswan. His body language says it all! I’M glad Shane has smoked this “Jackall from his den! We here, can watch him manouvre and manipulate his way to where he and his subservient masters want him. Watch him closely and he will provide us with a window into who and how he is been controlled!

    • Blackswan September 20, 2012 at 8:07 pm #

      Curious – I have a lot to say about politicians – I wanted to eyeball them in person and ensure that my impressions of them were justified. Their behaviour when the cameras aren’t on them is MOST revealing.

      Their very actions demonstrated to me that the hundreds of members of the public who packed out the galleries were of no significance to them whatsoever.

      We were just a ‘wallpaper’ background to their 3-ring circus and certainly not accorded the respect and courtesy one usually has for one’s Employers.

      Did you know that Sept 15th is the UN Day of Democracy? There was a display outside the House of Reps where members of the Public could fill out a form headed “Democracy is …..”

      One offering in a childish hand said this –

      “You need to respect each other and
      free to think our own thoughts. (sic)
      I love Australia (with a love heart)
      Evan – 7 years”

      I don’t know who Evan is, but I’d like to think that one day he’ll stand in that House to defend the values he is obviously being brought up with.

      My own contribution?

      “Democracy is …..
      the right of the People to demand honesty and
      accountability in this House without being
      denigrated as “misogynist nutjobs”.

      I don’t think it will survive the day without being binned…… LOL

  31. Jazza September 25, 2012 at 6:40 pm #

    It has often been said Turnbull is in the wrong party. I guess he would fit right in with the crooks and thugs from unions in the Australian Liars Party.

  32. Concerned Aussie September 27, 2012 at 9:20 am #

    holy sh*t, did anyone see the lovely yapoo story about greens giving their preferences to the coalition if turnbull replaces abbott?

    looks like the criminals are making their moves now in preparation for the next election.

    • phiston September 27, 2012 at 9:30 am #

      YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! THE GREENS ARE FUNDED BY GEORGE SORROS & CO who are One World Government funders! We ARE in deeeeep do-do now!!

      • Paul September 30, 2012 at 9:36 am #

        Correct. The Greens are a front, though I suspect Milne is more of a useful idiot than a true One-Worlder. Turnbull is equally part of the same team just with a different placement. No doubt he’ll be well rewarded for his treason, unless he becomes a liability to them (see Utegate), in which case his car may be fitted with a set of Boston Brakes.

  33. Rob Moore September 27, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    Hey Treeman- Bollon is a bit cosmopolitan for Turnbull, I think that Wyandra would be better. I’ve been suggesting for years that the NFF offices should move from Canberra to Mungindi or Eulo… or somewhere similar. Keep them focussed on what their role is!

    • Treeman September 27, 2012 at 5:45 pm #

      Yeah Rob, Eulo might just be the go. A bloke I know went there fifteen years ago and hasn’t been heard from since….

  34. had enough September 29, 2012 at 10:10 am #

    I noticed that nine news Adelaide last week did a short piece on Abbott a negative one and used your description of Turnbull as having a forked tongue and used it to discribe Tony.I had switched to nine as i will never watch seven after Mark Riley did his stint i am hoping that nine isnt going down the same road.

  35. nottwistedyet September 29, 2012 at 10:33 am #

    I am sorry to tell you that all t.v. stations are the same, they are all in the Club. Nine is the same, if anything good happens with one of the members of the opposition, you can back it in, either you will never hear about it, or it is one sentence, which no one picks up. Also agree with the photo-op where Turnbull sits next to HER, after the same sex marriage vote, that was a set-up
    Hardly watch the stuff now, makes me ill.,

  36. curious October 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    One of Malcolm Turnbulls senior advisers now is a senior communications man for SERCO. I wonder how much weight they pull on Malcolm Turnbulls decisions. What suprised me was this person was also senior adviser for Tony Abbott, Eric Abetts and John Howard.

    • phiston October 1, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

      Extract from Courier Mail Oct 01 2011 reads like this:

      ‘MALCOLM Turnbull spoke for a lot of people last month when he decried the poverty of public debate and discourse in Australian politics.

      “There is almost nothing more important to good government and our nation’s future than the quality, honesty and clarity of political discourse, said Turnbull in his George Winterton lecture.

      “Have we become so despairing of our public discourse that we no longer expect that it should be civil and honest; respecting, not insulting, the intelligence of the Australian people…”‘

      God help Australia…

  37. kurt flahavin December 6, 2013 at 12:38 am #

    I must admit Shane, you are completely right about Malcolm Turnbull. Turnbull is a dirty rotten scoundrel who doesn’t care about the Australian people, only he cares for himself and to become PM. His performance as communications minister over the few months since the coalition took government has been appalling, inept, lazy etc. Turnbull is a liability to the liberal party who needs to be removed from the front bench immediately. I know it’s over a year since you did this post Shane but your opinion on Turnbull is completely correct. Keep a close eye on Mr Turnbull, Shane.

  38. freddieh February 6, 2015 at 1:56 pm #

    Malcolm Turnbull talks with “forked tongue” ( re Climate Change.) and cannot be trusted as Pm.
    Surely the members of LNP understand that he would be another disaster for Australia and even though Abbott proved himself a DILL , not sure that Malcolm Turnbull would be any better . Why does Morrison not put his hand up? He has more guts than the other 2 combined!!

  39. So Over Forked Tongues February 6, 2015 at 4:17 pm #

    This man has his whole Liberal life been undermining leaders first Brendon Nelson now Abbott especially when he was opposition leader Labor wasnt Abbotts enemy it was Malcolm leaking to a certain Left Leaning Paper . Are the journos calling the shots telling Malcolm what to do or say so they can get their headline against Abbott? Does this mean then the payoff is no criticism of Malcolms portfolio from the media ?.When giving interviews or making comments Malcolm always says things that are cleverly orchestrated which could have two meanings against Abbott and say no that isnt what i meant when it hits the fan, now here he is again thinking he can be PM he waited until Tony won the election on policies we elected him on and ones that Malcolm would never have supported now thinks he can lead. He wants the carbon tax and the boats will start again as he is a weak man

  40. Paul September 14, 2015 at 9:00 pm #

    A great post that refuses to go out of date.

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